From: Torsten
Message: 67803
Date: 2011-06-17
>True, that's a problem. But, surfing around for a solution, I found
> > BTW, since the group of Magyar invaders seem to have been
> > polyglot, and since they untypically for a FU group were cattle
> > nomads, one has to ask oneself why the FU language Hungarian came
> > out on top?
>
> > GK: Numbers probably. A similar issue as to why Turkic replaced
> > Iranic in the steppes. Or why Cumanic rather than Mongol became
> > the language of the "Tartars" of the West.
> Erh, as far as I know those numbers became what they were through
> action, if I may put it that way. It's my impression that the
> various FU groups were allowed to survive, unlike other peaceful
> groups, because they provided honey and wax
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/66834
> This might be a necessary function, but it can't create a majority
> population relative to the trade etc community they are part of.
> ****GK: Agreed. But I thought we were talking about those groups of
> FU who became nomads and functioned as nomads for a long time while
> retaining their language. I believe they were a comfortable majority
> in the "Hungarian" groups in the immediate pre- and post- Landnahme
> period [ca. 900 CE]. It is my impression that they were originally
> "invited" by the Khazars to help in their war with Omortag of
> Bulgaria (c. 820) at which point they were already warlike nomads.
> But perhaps the other George could elaborate (if he's willingI think he's sulking under the table. Do you think he needs a cookie? ;-)
> (:=))****