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GK: And here's another:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold_Ma%C5%84czak
Scroll down to "Praojczyzna Slowian" and click on that. It takes you to the online version of an early "autochtonist revisionist" work (2001 I believe) where Makiewicz also appears. I'll look into this (all the contributions are in Polish). I see no references to Shchukin though (he would be their most formidable adversary).
****GK: I've read Manczak's contribution. It's interesting but he seems to be primarily a statistician, with a statistical approach e.g. he argues among other things that the specific time of an area's annexation to the Roman Empire will determine the quantity of borrowings from Latin to the language of the country in question (you can see this in his article even if you can't read Polish BTW) etc etc etc similar approaches everywhere. I thnik Makiewicz's article is an earlier version of the one you give a link to. It deals with ceramics. I'll have a look later. BTW I've just eceived word that Pachkova is indeed available
Here's a brief description:
Зарубинецкая культура и латенизированные культуры Европы
Автор: Пачкова С. П.
Видано: Киев, 2006
Формат: 84×108 1/16
Кількість сторінок: 372
Обкладинка: тверда
Книга посвящена характеристике зарубинецкой культуры, памятники которой на рубеже нашей эры были распространены на территории Среднего и Верхнего Поднепровья, Припятского Полесья и Подесенья. Большое внимание уделено проблеме ее истоков и происхождения. Рассматривается вклад в ее формирование населения культур предшествующего скифского времени (поморской, милоградско-подгорцевской и лесостепных культур Поднепровья). Значительная часть исследования отведена вопросам взаимоотношений с
синхронными культурами Средней и Юго-Восточной Европы, которые вместе с зарубинецкой, находились под сильным влиянием латенской культуры кельтов и создали своеобразный "мир латенизированных культур". *****
Quick paraphrase (sorry for the errors but the gist will be there): The book characterizes the Zarubinian culture, which was spread, at the beginning of the CE, on the territory of the Middle and Upper Dnipro, the Polissian/Pripet area and the course of the Desna. Much attention is paid to the problem of its sources and origin. We examine the contribution to its formation of the population of the cultures of the preceding Scythian epoch (Pomeranian, Milohrad-Podhortsev and forest- steppe cultures of the Dnipro area). A significant portion of our analysis is focused on the questions of interrelations with synchronous cultures of Central and Southeastern Europe, which, along with the Zarubinian, were under the strong influence of the La Tene culture of the Celts and created together the particular "world of the LaTenized cultures".