Re: [tied] PoieneÅŸti inhumations

> >
> > BTW, if Bastarnae and Scythians mixed, as per Tacitus,
> > GK: Tacitus does not say that Bastarnians and Scythians mixed.
> > He's talking about upper class marriages between Sarmatians and
> > Peuca Bastarnians in the latter part of the 1rst c. CE. We have no
> > archaeology for the Bastarnians of that time and area
> > unfortunately.*****
> > 
> >
> > > and Scythians used inhumation, how can Bastarnae in the
> > > Poieneşti-Lukaševka have used cremation exclusively? What is
> > > your source on that?
>
> > GK: Every source on the Poeneshti-Lukashovka culture's
> > inhumation practices with no known exception, confirms that
> > cremation was that culture's exclusive burial rite. There is no
> > archaeological material available for Peuca in the 1rst c. CE.
>
> Here's a source:
>
> http://arheologie.ulbsibiu.ro/publicatii/ats/ats6.1/07/niculita_east.pdf
> 'Based on the analysis of archaeological materials we can draw a
> conclusion that irrespective of age, sex, social status biritualism
> [ie both inhumation and cremation] was practiced over both cultural
> chronological periods of 3rd-1st centuries BC - 1st-3rd centuries
> AD.'
>
> Comments, George?
>
> *****GK: If you examine the source material for Niculita's article,
> you will find that he ignores the Bastarnian issue altogether. Refs.
> 1 and 2 deal with Getic funerary practices, and conclude that in the
> 4th c. and 3rd c. BCE there was biritualism. The mention of
> Poeneshti is incidental. Poeneshti had settlements and gravesites
> which antedated the arrival of Sciri and Galatae etc.. and the later
> Poeneshti-Lukashovka culture has nothing to do with these. Ref. 3 is
> the source book which also contains (on pp. 17-25) Pachkova's
> article on Poeneshti-Lukashovka. Niculita has nothing to say about
> this. He is quoting from another article (p. 35) about the Getae of
> that time. Even more "interesting" is his material from the early
> centuries of the first millenium CE.  Refs. 4-9 deal with the Gothic
> period. B. Mahomedov has written very well on this. The biritualism
> present at the time is that of the Gothic complex, which continues
> the biritualism of Wielbark and is actually part of the Chernyakhiv
> culture. In effect, Niculita has nothing to offer here. And the
> assertion that Bastarnae of the Poeneshti-Lukashevka culture
> practiced an exclusive incineration rite remains unaffected. Note 
> that no biritualism exists in Late Poeneshti-Lukashovka (in the area
> to the northeast of Moldova to which Bastarnians migrated after the
> Burebista assault.)*****
>  

The title of the article is:
CONTRIBUTIONS MADE TO THE STUDY OF THE BURIAL RITE
PERFORMED BY THE COMMUNITIES INHABITING EAST
OF THE CARPATHIANS IN 3RD C. B.C. - 3RD C. A.D.

Did the Bastarnae live in the area east of the Carpathians, ie Moldova, in the period 3rd cent BCE - 3rd cent. CE, yes or no?



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