Re: More on Bastarnian archaeology

From: george knysh
Message: 67455
Date: 2011-05-02


From: Torsten <tgpedersen@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: More on Bastarnian archaeology

 


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Note the Hachmann quote here:
http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/66893

The strange Jungian synchronicity between Middle German and PoieneÅŸti forms stretching into time period B and dying then in PoieneÅŸti seems to be better explained by a wholesale transfer of the Bastarnae to Central Germany.

****GK: The problem with this hypothesis is that the Poieneshti culture only evolved in Moldavia (more precisely in the Getan sections conquered by the Yastorfers). The originating Middle German culture of the incoming Yastorfers (incl. their fibulae) was not Poieneshti since that did not yet exist. It doesn't seem reasonable to assume that this "wholesale transfer of the Bastarnae to Central Germany" would have been preceded by a total loss of all the "local" cultural elements they had developed in Moldavia. And Hachmann doesn't see any such in Middle Germany esp. in ceramics. Therefore this later time period Middle German culture cannot be (and has not been) interpreted as successor to the Poieneshti culture which existed in Moldavia until the end of the first half of the 1rst c. BCE. On the other hand, the late Poieneshti culture of Bukovyna/Galicia certainly is such a successor culture, in all details. It also has Kostrzewski's type M fibulae.*****