Re: Satarchae, Sadagarii, Sagartioi, Sargetae, Asagarta; ÁsgarÃ

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:

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> From: Torsten <tgpedersen@...>
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, December 14, 2010 5:30:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Satarchae, Sadagarii, Sagartioi, Sargetae, Asagarta;
> ÃÆ'�sgarÃÆ'°-?
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <bm.brian@> wrote:
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> > At 4:20:35 PM on Wednesday, December 1, 2010, Torsten wrote:
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> >http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Heimskringla/Ynglinga_Saga#Of_the_People_of_Asia.
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> > > I can't see anything in that description that would be
> > > improbable for a ruler of an Iranian upper layer / nomadic
> > > people.
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> > Perhaps, but that's only Ch. 2. Then there's Ch. 7:
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> > Ã"ðin changed shapes; his body then lay as if asleep or dead,
> > and he was then a bird or an animal, a fish or a serpent,
> > and travelled in the twinkling of an eye to distant lands,
> > on his or other people's errands. In addition he was able
> > with words alone to put out a fire and calm the sea, and to
> > turn the winds any way he wished. Ã"ðin had a ship that was
> > called Skiðblaðnir, on which he travelled over great oceans,
> > but it could be folded up like cloth. Ã"ðin had with him
> > Mímir's head, and it told him many tidings from other
> > regions. And now and then he awakened dead men from the
> > earth, or sat under a gallows; on this account he was called
> > lord of ghosts or lord of hanged men. He had two ravens
> > that he had trained to talk; they flew far and wide all over
> > the lands and told him many tidings. From these things he
> > became very wise. He knew all the skills with runes and
> > incantations that are called witchcraft; on that account the
> > Æsir are called sorcerers. Ã"ðin knew that skill that the
> > greatest might accompanied, and himself practised what is
> > called <seið>. And thereby he could know people's fates and
> > things yet to come, as also cause people's death or bad luck
> > or illness, as also to take from people their wits or
> > strength and give them to others. But so much lewdness
> > accompanies this sorcery when it is performed that it did
> > not seem to men other than disgraceful to deal with it, and
> > this skill was taught to the priestesses. Ã"ðin knew about
> > all treasure hidden in the earth, where it was hidden, and
> > he understood the incantations that opened the earth before
> > him, and boulders and stones, and the mounds, and he bound
> > with words alone those who were present, and went in and
> > took as he wished. He became very famous on account fo
> > these powers; his enemies feared him, but his friends
> > trusted him and believed in his power and in him himself.
> > And he knew the most skills of his sacrificing priests; they
> > were closest to him in all witchcraft and sorcery. Yet many
> > others learned much and have thence spread the art of
> > sorcery far and wide and long continued to practise it.
> > And people worshipped Ã"ðin and those twelve chieftains and
> > called them their gods and believed in them long afterwards.
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> Asia's full of those guys.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaman
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> I'll let you in on a secret, Brian, if you promise not to tell: I
> don't think he actually did that.
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> Torsten
> What, you blasphemer. Odin, according to genealogical charts was my
> ancestor.
> That in itself makes it all true ;p

Oh, I'm so sorry; I didn't realize....
I didn't really mean it, please don't burn my embassy.
I think I'll go out an find something to sacrifice


Torsten