Re: Galindae

From: Torsten
Message: 66910
Date: 2010-12-02

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <bm.brian@...> wrote:
>
> At 8:37:45 PM on Wednesday, December 1, 2010, Rick
> McCallister wrote:
>
> > ***R If it's any help, Galindo and Galíndez (son of
> > Galindo) are Hispanic lastnames --this suggests some
> > tie-in with Gothic
>
> A forename <Galindo> is found by the early 9th century, and
> the Latinized <Galindus> is found from the 7th century.
> There's even a feminine <Galinda> from the 10th century.
> The origin of the name is uncertain. It's been suggested
> that there's a connection with the region Galinden in East
> Prussia. Some on the name of that region can be found at
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galindians>.

I know, that's why I provided that link ;-)

What might have been the case is that the Western Balts were the δουλοι (nice word; means both "subject" and "slave" in Herodotus) of the Germanic-speaking Przeworsk and the Slavs the δουλοι of various Iranian-speaking groups.

BTW I was wondering that if *ga-lin-d- "bound; slave" is the correct etymology for the Galindae, whether Galatian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia
http://tinyurl.com/32n3flg
and Laeti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laeti
are the same word?

The Galatians are generally called Celts, and their language deemed Celtic on the basis of the statement of St Jerome that the Galatians and the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treveri
http://tinyurl.com/39vnwzv
spoke the same language. But the Gallicness of the Treveri is disputed; they might have been Belgic, and they thought of themselves as Germanic. The Protogenes inscription mentions them being together with the Sciri,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scirii
so one wonders whether they had some connection with the Bastarnae.
The descendants of the Galatians, the Scordisci
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scordisci
cf.
http://tinyurl.com/32n3flg
('the Galli Scordisci, who were settled at the confluence of the Save and the Danube, were said to be a remnant of them (Justin, 32.3; Strab. p. 293, 313), and to be mingled with Thracians and Illyrians.')
are said by Livy to have a similar (or 'not dissimilar') language to the Bastarnae
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/65316

As for laeti
http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/64909
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_German
has no mandatory prefix *ga- -> ge- as standard (High) German does.

BTW, I wonder if those characteristics that separate High German from all the other Germanic languages, might be due to Bastarnian influence (after they were driven from Poieneşti-Lukaševka into Przeworsk by Burebista).


Possibly also in
de Vries
'latr adj. "lazy, lax",
Icel. Faroese latur, Norw. Sw. lat, Da. lad.
- Gothic lats, ae. læt, afr. let, as. lat, ahd. laz.
- Latin lassus "tired".
- cf. lata, láta, leti, letja, lo,skr und lo,t.'

and several related words.


Torsten