Re: 'dyeus' chronology

From: shivkhokra
Message: 66736
Date: 2010-10-09

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <bm.brian@...> wrote:
>
> At 2:53:50 PM on Saturday, October 9, 2010, shivkhokra
> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti"
> > <frabrig@> wrote:
>
> >> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "shivkhokra"
> >> <shivkhokra@> wrote:
>
> >>> We should also think about why on Crete the palaces were
> >>> called PUR on linear B tablets and not the greek term
> >>> polis. Pur is what palaces are in Vedas.
>
> >> If you are referring to the term "pu-ro", attested
> >> repeatedly in Linear B tablets, that is considered a
> >> place-name (Greek Pulos, i.e. Pylos), not a word for
> >> 'palace'.
>
> > No one doubts that Vedic Pur and Greek Polis are one and
> > the same. Crete had palace names such as ma-to-ro puro,
> > rauratijo puro etc. Compare such names to how palace
> > founded cities are named in India: Udaipur, Jodhpur etc.
>
> You appear to have completely missed Francesco's point,
> which is that all of this is completely irrelevant to Linear
> B <pu-ro> 'Pulos', which cannot have the same source.


No. I have given two examples: matoropuro and rauratijo puro which are different town/palace names on crete.



>
> >> As to "pur is what palaces are in the Vedas", this
> >> statement of yours is simply ridiculous. In the Rigveda,
> >> pur means only 'rampart, wall made of mud and stones,
> >> fortification, palisade', and its supposed Indo-European
> >> cognates, Greek polis and Lithuanian pilis, originally
> >> meant only 'fortress, stronghold'. The reconstructed
> >> Proto-Indo-European form is generally given as *plh1-
> >> (which cannot have resulted in Greek <pulos>).
>
> > See above.
>
> You have not addressed either of Francesco's points.
>
> Brian
>