The word bear

Gentlemen,

I think the word ursus (bear) is derived from the compound oros=mountain and seeing in other words someone standing up as the beaur does. So it's orthios. the t sound as you know can easily be turned to s.

Lambrinakos

From: Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 1:34:48 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Implications of Bangani

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, johnvertical@... wrote:

> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <wrote:
> >
> > The existence of Khowar òhts 'bear' makes it likely that
> > Finnish otso/ohto was borrowed from an Indo-Iranian l[anguage]
> > like Kh[owar], possibly even proto-Kh[owar].
>
> No, _otso_ is a recent hypercorrection based on _ohto_ (cf. Tampere
> dialectal _ketsu_ pro _kettu_ "fox"), which derives from older
> *okti .

The two of you have been discussing for weeks a Khowar word, transcribed as "òhts" by "stlatos", which isn't possibly even the correct form. Morgenstierne, later cited by Turner, has "orc" (with an underdot over the /c/, most likely representing a -ts sound). Morgenstierne postulates a "Kafir" (i.e. Nuristani) origin for this Khowar (Dardic Indo-Aryan) word:

http://tinyurl.com/39w7wj8
http://tinyurl.com/39xvqnz
http://tinyurl.com/392fyzu

Regards,
Francesco