>It shows signs of the IE 'extended' roots *di-ew- and *di-en- (Dienstag,
>dinsdag etc), which means that it too is best served with a PIE root
>de-iÅ- (vel sim.).
But this is explained in a bit different way: dingestach < Thingsus <
Tyr; with the equivalent in Alemanian German: Zischtig < ziostag
"Ziu's day" ("Tyr's day"). (Funny Zeus resemblance). IMHO, this shows
that medieval Germans no longer had any idea of (or nexus to)
_*di-en-_ (they were Mittelhochdeutsch, and no PIE-speaking people).
>The -r of ON Týr, Dan. tirsdag etc could be explained as a
>rhotacization of a final *-n#,
Perhaps due to some Protorumanians taken with them by Gepids!
(: just kiddin' :))
>This all seems far-fetched, but I don't know of any other attempt to
>explain the -w/-n/-r alternation of that Germanic theonym.
1st of all, the sounds [n] and [r] are "next-door neighbors" for
people whose [r] is apical (uttered mm away from the alveola).
(Note that some Germans, esp. in southern regions of the "reich"
pronounce their [n] in the apical-labial way (the tip of the tongue
touches the upper lip). Now how about that! One of the most
prominent "user" is the former federal chancellor H. Kohl. :))
>As far as I know (I only know Georg's line of argument from some
>other article, which I can't find now) he proposes that the Turkic
>Tengri etc is a cultural loan from Yeniseian, which makes discussion
>of the relative affiliation or super/substrate status of Turkic and
>Yeniseian irrelevent to this question.
I'd rather say "quite the contrary": this only would stress the entire
mass of assumptions pertaining to the super/substrate(s) of Turkic
and Mongolian. After all, it seems that in those relevant vast
regions the "mongoloid" and "Turkic" presence was more recent
than the one of older (many of them PIE) groups.
>Into PIE, and later, independently, into Proto-Germanic.
But it could have been the other way round as well, couldn't it?
*deiuos > tangra. (OTOH, what has the Germanic mythology in
common with tengrism? Chiefly that cosmogonic tree, kind of
"Himmels-" or "Weltenbaum", similar to Yggdrasil. Otherwise, the
deities and their ... adventures rather resemble those of other PIE
groups. They seem to me quite different from those Tangra, Yer
and their children and other spirits. I dunno, after all I am no Mircea
Eliade or Dumézil. :) By the way: Roman sources show that there
were analogies Odin - Mercur (Hermes), and that Odin's cult only
gradually surpass that of Tyr/Tiuaz. Does all this have no signi-
ficance?)
>Prellwitz
>Etymologisches Wörterbuch der Griechischen Sprache
>says
>'ÏoÏÏÏ Reihe, Reigen, Tanzplatz (Hom.):
>lit. žãras Art und Weise des Gehens,
>ab. zara Band. Eigl. "das Anfassen" (beim ReÃgen)
>von *gher fassen.'
Perhaps the expert St. R. Georg could tell us whether the word
yohor for those Altaic & Mongolian circle dance/Reigentanz of
shamans is related or not with xoros, xoreia & *gher. (Whether
it's a yoh + -or or a hor + yo-.)
George