From: Torsten
Message: 66533
Date: 2010-09-05
>I don't shortlist literature based on ethnicity, but to each his own.
>
>
> >Check out
> >http://tinyurl.com/2ut83kq
>
> As soon as I see such second names as Vajda dealing with
> "Sabirs" and the like, I'd rather stop any further reading and
> continue if the author(s) are Germans, French, English etc.
> As far as Euro-Asian populations are of concern, I'd readIf you only read very few writers, you end up short of facts.
> only very few such authors (who in their own vernacular
> are called "szerkeztök").
> >I think you lost me here.Most of what I write occurred there.
>
> Read a bit about the "universe" of the European "race" living for
> millennia East of the Dnepr and of the Don. You ain't seen nothin'
> yet.
> Much of the "cybalist" subjects occurred there.
> >Check 'WATER' inI don't know of any linguist who proposes a genetic relationship between Yeniseian and Turkic. On the other hand, S, Georg did propose that *tengri was borrowed into Turkic from Yeniseian, and the similarities look like they need explaining.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeniseian
>
> "Stone" and "river" are very close to Turkish tash and su. Also
> "winter" (k(w)et(h)i versus kıÅ). Also Turkish iki versus Yenisei
> variants stated in the list. Also "water" compared with Turkic
> köl & göl "lake". Also perhaps "birch tree" u:s&, utcha, kus
> compared with Turkisch hush [huS]
>
> So, Yeniseian might look like Prototurkish (and I compared
> those words listed with *modern* Turkish vocabulary of
> Turkey!). So what?
> >Interesting videos.To my knowledge I concentrated on all links, plausible or implausible. But if you know of any I haven't covered, please tell me.
>
> Das glaub' ich. :)
>
> >As for the connection between the Odin thing and Iranian-speaking
> nomadic peoples (Sarmatians/Alans) the other George and myself
> had many and long arguments, as can seen in the archives.
>
> I know. But you both haven't yet concentrated on plausible links
> (except for some cases where some Sarmatians might have been
> assimilated, along with their "tamgas" in the mass of Germanic
> tribes.)
> >The Odin thing is appr. 60 BCE.There are no traces of any Odin/Wotan worship before that. And in my scenario *wod-in- was not a *deity*, but a person (possibly several, since *wod-in- was a title, not a name), later deified (or he was a 'prophet' of a monotheism, who in later stages of that religion merged with the divinity he was referring to, perhaps in the tradition of
>
> Is this a sure thing? Namely that Odin (a *deity*) appeared no
> sooner than 60 bce.
> > BTW you should switch to UTF-8, if you want to use funnyCheck the setting just before clicking 'Send'.
> > characters.
>
> The funny thing is that my browser is setted UTF-8 *by default*, and
> in spite of that it renders ... funny characters as soon as I post
> messages via yohoogroups.com. (Some of them are repaired, but
> only some of them, whenever I switch to ISO-8859-2. Jumpin' tootin'
> blazes! :-))