Res: Res: Res: [tied] Re: 'dyeus'

It could be just a coincidence, but both in Germania and India, Morning Star/Venus was associated to a giant or asura: *Aurawandilaz and S^ukra/Us^anas. In Greek we have Eo:sphoros and his father Astraios (<Semitic *3aTtaru ?).
Analysis *Aurawandilaz as < *aus(r)o- bear a little problem:
a) auso- > *auza- > *ON eyr- instead of aur- (unless this represent some kind of analogy after austr- compound)
b) ausro > *austra-

It's tantalizing to see Us^anas as a deturped form of Us.anas to use a *us- preffix. Kavya Ushanas was the priest or messenger of the Asuras in the war against devas (rival to Br.haspati, devas' priest and Jupiter planet), and his Avestic analogou was Kavi Usan (Kay Us). Avestic us- has been read by some as meaning "source, fountain" or "drain, leak". Us^anas/Usan points to *us^a- < *uk^o-.

Possible PIE origins for Germanic *aura-
a) *auro-/ouro-
b) *aukro > *auXra > *auhra > *aura ? (unlikely)
c) *akWro- > *aGWra > *aura
d) agHWro - *aGWra > *aura

JS Lopes

De: andythewiros <anjarrette@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Domingo, 11 de Julho de 2010 9:07:54
Assunto: Res: Res: [tied] Re: 'dyeus'

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> W dniu 2010-07-11 02:35, Joao S. Lopes pisze:
> >
> >
> > I don't know the dates, just that these planets were associated to these
> > deities. It'd interesting to know about Pre-Roman Slavic and Baltic
> > names of planets (if they are known)
>
> Planetary astronomy wasn't particularly well developed in these parts.
> The only planet that seems to have been consistently named in Northern
> Europe was Venus, especially in its capacity as the "morning star", and
> its names are transparently derived from the term for 'east, morning'
> (*h2aus[s]-ro-), hence also Germanic *aura-wanÃ°ilaz 'eastern wanderer' >
> OE e:arendel (the details will be laid out in my forthcoming article).
>
> Piotr
>

Does this mean that *wanðilaz was the Germanic word for "planet" of similar formation and meaning as Greek planetes? And was a "planet" thought of as different from "stars", or were they considered to be merely wandering stars? Were there any other *wanðilo:z? This is perhaps more a question for astronomy, not linguistics, but I'm curious.

Andrew Jarrette