Re: Res: [tied] DaniƩlou and Puranas as translations

From: nemonemini@...
Message: 66202
Date: 2010-06-16

Just a final note on the question of Danielou and I will leave it at that: his work has many extraneous issues that don't concern the main point. The stream of Indic religion goes back before the putative Indo-European entry point, and the appearance given by so-called 'Hinduism' is completely misleading, the Vedic tradition being a later construct, which a serious New Ager might learn to disregard apart from its intrinsic historical or achaeological interest. It has no relevance to the mainline of Indic spirituality. Thus the status of Hinduism is highly misleading and any student thereof might judiciously consider the primordial Shaivism and Jain traditions, as outlined by figures such as Danielou, taking these with care. This is a treacherous line of study, but the basic outline is clear. This tradition belongs to noone and the student of the great yogas should altogether defy the propaganda and outright exploitations of the Neo-Brahmin tyranny over the Indian tradition which has been crippled by sophistical doctrines and class warfare of the most subtle brand.
But the basic outline or periodization given by such as Danielou can help to orient oneself toward the real Indian spirituality. This is no small matter as the implications of these views show that, for example, the endemic confusion with caste is a later imposter and has nothing to do with the real tradition.
Without getting into the equally treacherous realm of Buddhist propaganda, we can see that it represented a reform movement trying to outflank the crystallizing Hindu establishment.
New Agers are often systematically misled by these phantoms of 'Indian religion' in decline as of the Axial Age. It comes as a shock to realize that two thousand years of Hinduism has been based on a set of distortions, but the defenders of Indian tradition would do better to write off their losses and pick up the real threads of yoga/tantra spawned by primordial Shaivism. In fact, those traditions, to a close look, are already the case tucked away behind the various fronts of the Vedic phantoms.
 
 
Thank you for your time, and the insights of Indo-European linguistic studies on this, for many, a practical life and death issue of entanglement in endless confusion.
John Landon
There is more on this at The Gurdjieff Con blog