Re: Re[2]: Res: [tied] Re: Latin tempus

From: Anatoly Guzaev
Message: 66110
Date: 2010-04-25

>That *h&bl-h/n- makes very little sense.

This is a hypothetical protoform, and I admit it doesn't make much sense at first glance. In fact, I am close to believe that steblo is related (through the metathesis, omission and metonymy) to Lat. culmus, OE healm, Russ. solóma 'stalk, stem, straw', although I am not sure where the sound /t/ (in stebl-) is coming from.

>According to
>Derksen, Russ. <stebel'> is from PSl. *stIblI 'stem, stalk,
>trunk', from PIE *stibH-l-yo- >; Cz. <stéblo> and Russ.
><stebló> (dialect; ORuss. <stIblo>) are from PSl. *stIblo,
>from PIE *stibH-l-om. Baltic has cognates without the *l.
>I see no reason to think that English <stalk> is from the
>same root.


My opinion is different from yours. Latin stipula is most probably related to PSlavic *stьblь; as well as OE stapol 'a post, pillar, column, stalk', ODu. stapel 'stem, stalk'. There were a lot of sound changes here. For instance, Cz stopka 'stalk' is derived from stebel (stablika > stopka) too.


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