Re[2]: [tied] The etymology of herold

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 65647
Date: 2010-01-14

At 5:08:35 AM on Wednesday, January 13, 2010, Torsten wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Pavel A. da Mek"
> <a.da_mek0@...> wrote:

>>> Does anyone know the etymology of "herold"?

>> herald
>> c.1276 (in Anglo-Latin), "messenger, envoy," from
>> Anglo-Fr. heraud, from O.Fr. heraut, hiraut, perhaps from
>> Frank. *hariwald "commander of an army," from P.Gmc.
>> *kharjaz "army" (from PIE root *koro- "war") + *wald- "to
>> command, rule." The form fits, but the sense evolution is
>> difficult to explain, unless in ref. to the chief officer
>> of a tournament, who introduced knights and made
>> decisions on rules. The verb is c.1384, from the noun.
>> Heraldry "art of arms and armorial bearings" is first
>> recorded 1390, as heraldy, from O.Fr. hiraudie, from
>> hiraut, originally "heralds collectively." The spelling
>> with -r- is attested from 1572 (cf. poetry, pedantry).
>> ///

> Wouldn't one expect **xarja-wald-, not *xari-wald?

In PGmc., but not in OFrk.

Brian