Re : [tied] Re: Morimarusa

From: Torsten
Message: 65603
Date: 2010-01-07

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "segijus" <segijus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is written in
> > > http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balt%C5%B3_religin%C4%97s_reformos
> > > that Cimbri lived in Gotland before Goths had come there.
> > > Cimbri went to Semba then and have created Prussian nation
> > > there.
> >
> > I haven't heard that legend before, but it seems from the
> > discussion page
> > http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptarimas:Balt%C5%B3_religin%C4%97s_reformos
> > that the story is from Simon Grunau
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Grunau
> > who might have gotten story from Erasmus Stella
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus_Stella. FWIW.
>
> It can be that Pamare Balts, who escaped from Goths into Semba,
> have created this legend.

I can't assess the veracity of the story without knowing what the source of it says. The reference you provided doesn't give any, so I assume from the remarks on the discussion page that it's Simon Grunau. On the other hand, if it is a native tradition in Balticum, someone must have been the first to record it. Who? Unfortunately, since those medieval chroniclers are assumed a priori to tell only falsehoods, their chronicles are considered irrelevant and difficult to get access to. So unless I can get access to those original texts, I'll have to disregard the information on that Wikipedia page.

> Did they call themselves Cimbri?

No idea. You tell me.


Torsten