The Creationist Agenda of Marius "alexandru_mg3" (was Re: BREAKING N

From: david_russell_watson
Message: 65425
Date: 2009-11-15

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
>
> 1. David you have the eyes BUT you cannot see....

Marius, you have a brain, but, like all the faithful, you use
it only selectively.

> 2. The Darwinian Selection is a Valid Theory ...in the sense
> that a DNA modification trigerred by the genetic program "is
> tested" against the Environmental conditions...
> The DNA changes are trigerred in different ways....and
> random choices to trigger the Result of a Good Selection when
> the selection criteria are knwon, represent one option to trigger
> a selection.
> This theory it becomes a Mathemathical One either, so is
> well formalized today.
> BUT RANDOM ALTERNATIVE AND RANDOM CHOICE IS SOMETHING
> DIFFERENT THAN AN ACCIDENT....seems that for many, the difference
> here is not obvious.
>
> 3. Accidental Random Changes 'will never write' a DNA Program
> ...or even a Computer One.....
> If you think that the life apparition and the life evolution
> is trigerred by a Program that has appearred and next was improved
> 'ONLY by accidental changes' ....so only by the BLOW OF THE WIND...
> then up to you....
>
> SUCH A THINKING: IS 'A STRANGE RELIGION' I WILL SAY ...BUT I HAVE
> NOTHING AGAINST : IS A FREE WORLD (when is free).....BUT IS JUST
> ANOTHER TYPE OF ATEISM....

Your understanding of biological evolution is pathetic, but
of course straw men are much easier to knock down than real
ones, aren't they, Marius?

Thank you, however, for putting your stirring Declaration of
Faith into a permanent and easily accessible form for future
reference. You shall hereafter always have a more difficult
task trying to deny your true pseudoscientific agenda on this
list.

> 4. For me the DNA is a Complex Program, a Wonderfull Creation
> And a Creator has been created it.
> I don't know if this Creator was the first or the last, in
> a long succession of Creators....or he was really the First...
> But this is secondary: The Life has had a Creator.
>
> And the Proof for the Creator is under our eyes : is the
> Genetic Program :
>
> ==> And This Genetic Program arrived in Humans to a stage
> where: "The Created Ones started to arrive to Understand how
> They were Created"....

Amen, brother! There is no god beside Zalmoxis, and Marius
is his prophet!

> (I have a Diploma in Computer Science and trust me that this
> is still an impossible Program, is impossible even to imagine it,
> for our Times......you need to see first how complex electronic
> circuits are needed ONLY to add two numbers....)

How ridiculous (or shall we call it an "idiocy") to imagine
that a degree in computer science gives one authority to
lecture on questions biological. Though the like is nothing
new to cybalist, which list has seen more than one like the
engineer Hajji-Murat Hubey pretending to have the last word
on linguistics due to his standing in a so-called "hard"
science.

> Open your eyes here and see that this is Really a MIRACLE where :
> "The Created Ones started to arrive to Understand how They
> were Created"....
> THIS MIRACLE is Greater than ANY MIRACLE written in ANY
> RELIGION BOOK of ANY HUMAN CULTURE.....
> AND WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS NOT A RELIGION : IS SCIENCE...and
> his name is GENETIC
>
> But of course you are free to think: 'that all these were
> created ONLY by the BLOW OF THE WIND'...
>
> I mean that the Same Program gave you, the Neural Circuits...
> to allow you to think like this too....:)...another Miracle isn't
> it?

No, there are no such things as miracles, and human neural
networks and the thought they produce make complete sense
in the context of weak and strong force, gravity, magnetism,
etc.

> Marius
>
>
> P.S. I will not answer on the Protochronism Topic because is not
> in the topic of this thread. The Topic here is the 'Origin of
> the Human Language'

The topic is the Origin of Human Language, is it? I guess
then that you've never read "How to Behave on Cybalist", at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/files/Administrative ,
where it says (emphasis added):

"Since this list is devoted to Indo-European studies,
THE DISCUSSION OF extraneous or too general topics (e.g.
other language families, THE ORIGIN OF LANGUAGE, long-
range comparison etc.) WILL BE DISCOURAGED. There are
other lists where subjects like general linguistic,
Nostratic studies, anthropology, etc., may be discussed
more profitably."

> So please calm down...and check the Topic when you Post urls....

It's you who needs to calm down, Mr. All-Caps, and who
needs to check "How to Behave on Cybalist" before you
post.

> You need however to imagine a country occupied by the Russian
> Army, a Red Army that also imposed an International Cultural
> Ideology of the Communism :

I don't need to imagine any such thing. It's completely
irrelevant to the matter of your ignorance about biology
and science, Marius, which is MY topic.

> the Proletcultism and not only...
> Many People were killed during this occupation...
> Many others stayed almost all their live (20-30 years) in
> Prisons
> That Country under Russian Occupation has tried to recuperate
> little by his own National Culture, in different ways (exagerated
> or not, true or false)....when it still was under a Russian
> Occupation.
> Did your family were occupied by the Red Army?
> Whoever wrote that article on Wikipedia about the Romanian
> Protochronism either doesn't know, either doesn't like to present
> the Red Army Cultural impact in Romania...

It doesn't matter in the least, because the mere fact that
one's been the victim of an occupation, or any other evil,
doesn't makes his idiocy any less objectionable.

If you're truly so scarred by your experiences that you're
incapable of rationality, then please excuse yourself from
the table.

> I need to present myself who am I, because somehow I was
> accused:
> I finalized my University Studies in Computer Science in
> 1990 --> 6 months after Ceausescu's failure: so I have no link
> with the Protochronism ...
> But also I don't see the things in Black & White paradigms
> as you like to present them...

Oh yes, much better to present matters solely in terms of
"idiocy" or "non-idiocy", with Marius as sole arbiter of
which is which.

> My mother has a University Degree in 'Romanian Literature
> and Romanian Linguistic' and was Teacher all his life in a
> Town In Transylvannia were I was born too, together with my 2
> brothers.
> My father has a University Degree in Mathematics and has
> work all his life after a short stage as Teacher In Mathematics,
> in an IT Center

I'm not sure what you want us to make of this information
about your parents, but let me see if I can try:

Is your contention that, just as the mating of a jackass
with a mare produces a mule, a hybrid, so the mating of a
male mathematician with a female teacher with a degree in
literature and linguistics can be relied upon to produce
a master biologist?

It seems to me that in your case the latter union has in
fact, strangely, only produced instead one half of the
former.

In any case you're no biologist, master or otherwise, and
are in no position to call the conclusions of legitimate
biologists "idiocy", Marius.

> They hardly arrive to sustain in Universities their three
> children.

I can't make sense of this one. Can anybody interpret it
for me?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
>
> If your intention was to 'propose' an equivalence between
>
> Protochronism and the Thesis asserting that the "Romanians are
> Romanized Dacians" than for sure you are wrong....

"For sure", eh?

> The Thesis that "The Romanians are (mainly) Romanized Dacians"
> is a Valid Model : I would say that it has the Greatest
> Probability to be True, among all the exiting Models proposed
> r 'The Origin of Romanians'
>
> The main argument is the following one:

[BLAH, BLAH, BLAH]

> So I consider The Thesis that "The Romanians are (mainly)
> Romanized Dacians" as a Valid One from a Scientific Point of View.

And yet, after how many years on this list, have you failed to
convince any legitimate linguist of your belief?

Oh, but I forgot that, like all biologists, all linguists are
idiots, with Marius alone brilliant and/or brave enough to see
the truth, which attitude is the hallmark of true crackpots
everywhere.

> If this for you means Protochronism (even there is no link and
> a long distance from one to another) than in this sense : I
> onfirm that I am Protochronist...

Yes, and you've now confirmed that you're also a Creationist,
with Creationism being, as I've noted, an even greater idiocy
than Protochronism.

Moreover you're stunningly obnoxious, Marius, otherwise I'd
likely never even bother responding to you.

David