Re: Frankish origins

From: GeorgeS
Message: 65124
Date: 2009-09-24

>>The Tisza plain is not Pannonia?
>
> ****GK: Is it possible that thousands of words have been
>exchanged on an issue which is only an issue because one
>Torsten Pedersen happens to be a geographical ignoramus?.....
>
>Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisza
>Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia
>
>In Roman times the Tizsa (Tysa) plain was northeast of Pannonia.
>*****

The notion Pannonia has been extended to the plains east of the
North-South course of the Danube. Hence many people (most of
Hungarians as well) think of the Tissa plain too whenever
referring to Pannonia.

But stricto sensu Pannonia was and is the region West of the Danube
(in Hungarian also called "Dunán-túl" ('beyond the Danube')).

AFAIK, the region between the Danube and the Transylvanian
mountains was never included in the Roman empire (whose Pannonia
border was the Danube, and the next border, to the East, was that
of western Transylvania, i.e. Dacia porosissensis).

http://mek.niif.hu/02100/02113/html/img/n-034.jpg

George