Fw: Re: [tied] Re: Frankish origins

From: david_russell_watson
Message: 65119
Date: 2009-09-24

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> BTW, I mentioned earlier that the fact that the Germanic
> lands, Croatia, and Tanais show high concentrations of
> male haplogroup I argued for a common origin (see maps in
> ile section); it turns out that the Ossetians are mainly
> male haplogroup G
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G_%28Y-DNA%29
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G_%28Y-DNA%29#Caucasus
> http://www.members.cox.net/morebanks/MoreG2.html
> which however is also a male Caucasus marker.
> If I want to save a theory that Yazygi or Alans colonized
> large parts of Europe 'under cover' so to speak, I'd have
> to claim that the Alans/Ossetians received their high G
> percentage in the Caucasus. But that seems awkward (althouh
> since they have the highest G percentage of all groups there,
> plus that if I claim that the Alans were once haplogroup R
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R_%28Y-DNA%29 as
> the other Iranian steppe groups I would have no theory of
> cohesion with anyone in particular in Europe.
>
> So I think I'll modify my conjecture to this: The Yazygi etc
> were mainly R with some G from early intermarriage (Vanir etc),
> but picked up someone else with haplogroup I in Tanais, which
> became dominant in their later travels.

You should join the haplogroup-G list of which I am a member,
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Y-DNA_Haplogroup_G_Group .

Many of its members think like you, and I think would warmly
receive your ideas.

David