Re: Bembi, Baiberi, and Baibai (was: Re: Barba and Bestia)

At 6:48:24 AM on Saturday, August 8, 2009, stlatos wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> <BMScott@...> wrote:

[...]

>> The only other language undoubtedly related to Fas is
>> Baibai; even the proposed relationship with the Kwomtari
>> languages is doubtful. And since F. /B/ apparently
>> corresponds to B. /mb/, the obvious reconstruction here
>> is *Mb, a prenasalized stop (and the usual source of the
>> very rare bilabial trill, according to Ladefoged &
>> Maddieson).

> No matter how "weakly" you meant it, every part of it was
> wrong.

No.

> I don't know where you got your information
> from, but Fas and Bembi are obviously related,

Indeed: 'Bembi' is another name for Fas.

> I gave ev., most from material Wietze Baron put on the
> internet that was unpublished elsewhere,

I assumed as much; so far as I know, there's very little
available other than the material on or linked from his
site.

> to support this and you ignore everything but the
> complexity of the rec. forms and use this alone as enought
> to condemn it.

No, I didn't ignore everything else. You're simply blind to
the problem that I pointed out, just as you've been when
it's come up before. I don't expect that you ever will see
it, and I frankly don't care enough to make any further
effort to point it out, especially in this off-topic
context. Nowadays I'm content mostly to ignore ...
eccentricity, even sophisticated ... eccentricity.

Brian