From: tgpedersen
Message: 64659
Date: 2009-08-09
>Ie. disappeared from the traditional Sarmatian land..
> --- On Sat, 8/8/09, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@... com> wrote:
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> > BTW check out the spearblade A3 from Mus^ov in the File section
> > from
> > Jaroslav Pes^ka - Jaroslav Tejral
> > Das germanische Königsgrab von Mus^ov in Mähren [ie Moravia]...
> > .../cut for economy/...
> > The important thing here is: no one says 'tamga'.
> > What's your opinion?
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> ****GK: While surfing through the internet I looked to see if there
> were any items from the best current specialist on "tamgas among
> Iranic speaking nomads", Prof. S. Yatsenko. I found the following
> extremely interesting site: cf.
> http://www.formuseum.info/2009/04/26/jacenko3.html
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> Yatsenko has identified ca. 22 Sarmatian (more precisely Aorsan and
> Alanic) tamgas (he prefers to call them gakks which is the Ossetian
> term) on Germanic spearheads (mostly of the period ca. 150-230 CE)
> principally of the Przeworsk culture area. What is interesting is
> that he has also managed to identify nearly all of these gakks with
> their original "owners", Aorsans and Alans living in the steppes
> (by reference to burial sites from Western Ukraine to Western
> Kazakhstan). He notes that the great majority of these gakks ceased
> to function after ca. 150 CE, which means that their continuance in
> the Germanic lands is to be explained by "family inheritance". The
> clans they represented (except for one or two) perished during an
> invasion by eastern Alans in the mid-2nd c. CE.
> He supposes these gakks represent the membership in Aorsan andThanks, George! I appreciate that you also point out sources you know I can use for my version of the story (eg. switch those females with males, whose clans disappears at the same time back home). Looks like we should take good look at the Aorsan kings Farzoy and Inismey.
> Alanic aristocratic clans of Sarmatian ladies who married into
> Vandalic families in the first and early 2nd c. CE. Two
> notable gakks belonged to Scythian royalty of Aorsan stock (King
> Pharzoios/Farzoi== ruled ca. 45-ca.70 CE) and were found in a
> burial in Silesia and in Valle (SE Norway!), So it looks that not
> only the Bastarnians but also the Vandals intermarried with the
> Sarmatians in the time of Tacitus.****
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