Fw: Re: [tied] Re: Mid-first century BCE Yazigian prerequisites

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> >
> > > > > GK: Correction. Here is the Kulikov text on this: "The
> > > > characteristics of the burial rite of the amber country
> > > > which exemplifies equine headgear of the Proto-Vimose and
> > > > Vimose type [GK: i.e. the Celtic stuff] are particularly
> > > > interesting.
> > > >
> > > > Very interesting.
> > > > Vimose is on Fyn (the island you couldn't spell).
> > > > Tell me more about its Celticness.
> > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Vimose
> > > > http://tinyurl.
> > > > com/l5pqww
> > > > You're winging it again, right?
> > > >
> > > > ****GK: I said "Celtic stuff" as an abbreviation of a
> > > > previous post outlining the Celtic origins of this type of
> > > > object. The fact that it is named after Vimose is just a
> > > > matter of convenience. Here is Kulikov: "The Celtic material of
> > > > 100 BCE-> 100 CE etc., (as cited earlier)". He then
> > > > continues:"In all their areas [i.e. those of the Celts GK] at
> > > > the end of La Tene we find bronze chain type belts,
> > > > predecessors of the details of the Vimose type equine
> > > > headgears."... "Among the finds discovered in the camps of 1rst
> > > > c. CE Roman legions ... are many type Rh1 equine headgears
> > > > predecessors of Vimose (called Proto-Vimose [in the
> > > > professional literature GK]) the originating source of the
> > > > Vimose equine headgear type prepared on such Celtic models for
> > > > Rome's auxiliary cavalry." Try not to choke
> > > > (:=)).****)>
> >
> >
> > I'll manage. Celtic, you said?
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/27139
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/27140
> >
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> Some more stray finds of Sarmatian ring-pommeled swords. At least
> that's what you called them.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/31967
> They seemed to stray a lot.
> http://tinyurl.com/mqwefx

Next, you'll probably claim Roman provincial origin for the ring-pommeled swords and lorica squamata. That won't work either.

http://tinyurl.com/lm76g5

'The Origins of `Scale' Armour
Originating in the Middle East, where it had been in use since at
least the seventh century BC, scale armour was used by the Roman army
throughout its whole existence, and one of the reasons for its long
life was probably its ease of manufacture and repair . Consisting of
metal plates sewn to each other and to a backing, it offered an
acceptable degree of protection at a modest cost, the wearer could
move freely while wearing it, and, suitably cleaned and polished, it
would shine brightly on parade like a snake's skin or a freshly
caught fish. For an army like the Roman army, with its large numbers
of auxiliaries, it was also ideal for equipping second-rank troops
and cavalry at minimal cost.

Although very little used in ancient Greece — the scarcity of
archaeological finds is matched by the scarcity of paintings showing
it — scale armour must have come to Italy through Greece in the first
instance. Its widespread adoption under the Principate must have been
the result of the massive recruitment of Eastern auxiliaries into the
Roman army during the first century AD.'



Torsten