Re: Afro-Asiatic substrate

So, the question remains, is there an identifiable non-IE lexicon within Germanic like there is in Hellenic?

-Michael

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "etherman23" <etherman23@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mytoyneighborhood" <mytoyneighborhood@> wrote:
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> > > Several years ago there was a brief discussion here about
> > potential evidence indicating a possible Afro-Asiatic Substrate to
> > Northern European Germanic and Celtic languages in Continental
> > Europe and the British Isles (possibly explaining the non-Indo-
> > European lexicon within Germanic?-which is 1/3 according to
> > Hawkins) , and I don't recall anyone outright refuting the notion.
> > I was wondering if there's been any change of opinion regarding the
> > matter or new evidence?
> > > -Michael
> > >
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> > Sounds like you're talking about Theo Venneman's work. From what
> > I've heard there are basically two problems with his argument.
> > First, it's based primarily on typological arguments, like word
> > order in Celtic.
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> 1) No, he has written extensively on individual words
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> 2) The typological argument he took over from Pokorny.
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> > Second, much of the non-IE words in Germanic have been found to
> > have IE roots.
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> No, but more or less plausible IE etymologies have been proposed for them.
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> > I've heard, but can't justify, that some of the
> > non-IE vocab in Germanic is from Chuvash.
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> That's new to me.
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> Torsten
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