Re: That old Odin scenario ...

At 4:13:06 AM on Thursday, June 25, 2009, tgpedersen wrote:

[...]

> More possible Nemetic/Nemetski 'refugee camps' after
> Ariovistus:

> ADAC Maxi Atlas Deutschland, index:
> 'Nindorf 15 H3, @ 25704 Nindorf 16 C2, @ 24594
> Nindorf 28 B3. @ 21769 Lamstedt

[...]

> These are all the Nindorf's in the index.
> Here's one slightly more to the north, in Schleswig-Holstein:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nindorf,_Rendsburg-Eckernf%C3%B6rde

> Maps 15 28-29, 42-44 cover an area west, south west and
> south of Hamburg, within a 100 km range.
> Maps 174 and 187 are around Passau in Bavaria.

> These may be relevant too:
> 'Niendorf 19 H4, @ 23999 Insel Poel
> Niendorf 19 H7, @ 23996

[...]

> and a few more.

> Maps 19-21 are in Mecklenburg.
> Map 29 includes Hamburg.
> Maps 31-32 are east of Hamburg.
> Maps 44-45 are south east of Hamburg.
> Map 59 is east of Hannover.
> Map 79 is south of Berlin.

> They seem to be concentrated on a small area.
> Note the geographical separation of the Nin- and Nien- names
> There are other Nim- and Nin-/Nien- names too.

> A development *Ni(:)m-þorp- -> *Ni(:)n-þorp
> is to be expected (-> Ni(:)ndorf).
> However, there exist names in Nien- not before dental
> (Nienhagen, Nienhof, Nienhusen, Nienkamp).

<Nien-> names typically go back to older <Nigen->, <Nygen->,
an inflected form of MLG <nige, nie> 'new'. (An example of
the independent adjective may be seen in a document issued
by the counts of Wernigerode in 1320: 'We ... bekennen ...,
dat her Peter von Tzemmenstede unde Albrech Vynke hebben ...
enne nygen altar gebuwet in unsen vorbenomden godeshuse ...'.)

In at least some cases <Nindorf> appear to be 'new village'
as well: Nindorf am Walde is <Nianthorpe> 822, and another
is <Nianthorp> 935, where <-an> is an OSax. dat. sing.
variant.

Brian