Re: That old Odin scenario ...

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "bmscotttg" <BMScott@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@> wrote:
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> >> At 12:51:23 PM on Monday, June 22, 2009, tgpedersen wrote:
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> >> [...]
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> >>> So it seems it's *nem-et-, of which the first element was
> >>> an adj. That fits in with the Danish place names (Niløse
> >>> is on Sjælland, the rest on Djursland in Jutland or just
> >>> south of it), and presumably British Nympton.
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemeton
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> >> <Nympton> (<Nemetone Episcopi> 1269, <Bysshopes Nymet> 1334,
> >> <Bishops Nymeton> 1377; <Nimeton(e)> 1086, 1238, <Nimet>
> >> 1238, 12490) is 'estate on the river Nymet'. The river-name
> >> is 'pagan sacred place, sacred grove', from Prim. Welsh
> >> *nïv~ed, Brit. *nemeto- (OIr. <nemed> 'sacred place',
> >> OFrank. <nimid>, Gaul. <nemeton>, Lat. <nemus> 'sacred
> >> wood', Gk. <némos> 'wood'). The element is found in the
> >> OWel. place-name <Eidnivet> and the OBret. place-name
> >> <Iudnimet>. Matasovic appears to suggest a possible
> >> connection with PCelt. *nemos- 'heaven, sky' (< *nebHos
> >> 'cloud, cloudy sky').
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> > It would seem that Nymet as a river name is not documented
> > directly.
> > http://www.ndas.org.uk/place_names.htm
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> > And
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> > 'The Nymptons and the Nymets lie within an area which, to judge
> > by the place-names, remained heavily wooded until a relatively
> > late date. On the south-eastern edge of this area is Morchard
> > Bishop. Morchard (DB Morchet) represents British Celtic mor+ cet
> > `great wood'. It seems possible that we have here an area with
> > religious associations from the pre-Roman period. Any such
> > associations remained strong enough to be maintained in the form
> > of a district name despite the otherwise blanket removal of
> > British Celtic place-names from Devon at the West Saxon
> > take-over.'
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> > So the Nymptons and Nymets are the sole surviving Celtic place
> > names in Devon.
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> Obviously not: Morchard is in Devon.

On the south-eastern edge.

> And there are others:
> <Dawlish> is from Prim. We. *duB + *gles 'black stream',
> <Dart> (river-name) is from PrW *derw 'an oak-tree' and a
> river-name suffix *ïnt,

That would be my old friend *Dran,W-ant-
We don't agree on that one, as you know.

> the river-name <Exe> is from Brit. <Isca:>,
> and I could doubtless find at least a few more.

Go ahead.

> > Perhaps one should count in the fact that Devon was not Celtic,
> > but Belgic:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgae
>
> You have a strange definition of 'fact'.

You disagree, because?


Torsten