Re: *pa(n)-, *wes- "all" from same source?

From: dgkilday57
Message: 64081
Date: 2009-06-08

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> Two unimpressive IE etymologies for two words for "all", *pa(n)- and *wes-
>
> Pokorny
> 1. k^eu, k^ew&-: k^u:-, k^wa:-
> ,schwellen, Schwellung, Wölbung' und ,Höhlung, hohl',
> gemeinsame Anschauung ,Wölbung nach außen oder innen';
> k^owo-s ,hohl',
> k^ow&-ro-s : k^u:-ro-s ,geschwollen, stark, Held',
> k^ow&lo-s ,hohl, tief, k^u:-nó-s geschwollen',
> k^wa:-nt- ,ganz',
> k^us-i-s ,Hohlstengel'(?), kuwr. ,Loch'.
>
> ...
>
> pa~s ,ganz' (*pa:-nt- aus *k^wa:-nt-); auch = ha-pa:s ,jeder',
> ai. s´á-s´vant- (*sa-s´vant-) ,jeder der Reihe nach, vollständig';
>
> [...]

More recently Latin <cunctus> has been linked to Hittite and Tocharian words for 'all' beginning with p-, since the root *penkW- would undergo assimilation in Italo-Celtic to *kWenkW-, and we can get Greek <pa:s>, <panto-> from the same root by remodeling of the Greek paradigm.

Rick's suggestion of a relation to 'five' is new to me. That might create some difficulty in Hittite.

DGK