Re: Latin /a/ after labials, IE *mori

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jarrette" <anjarrette@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2009-05-28 21:02, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
> > > > The rules are:
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > > 1.a mo-CV- > ma-CV- (so in open syllable)
> > > >
> > > > mori- > mare
> > > > mon- > manus
> >
> >
> > > Why, then, moneo: < *mon-�je/o-? Why mora < *(s)mor-ah2?
> > > OTOH, a reduced-grade /a/ (or a Lindeman treatment of initial *mn-) can
> > > occur in *maneo: < *m(&)n-�h1-.
> >
> >
> > A) mane:re falls in the rule above so we regularly have:
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> > 1. *mon-�h1- > mane:re
> > 2. *mori- > mare
> > 3. *mon- > manus
> >
> > Note: There is no need for m(&)n- m(&)rei- patterns (or mr-i) etc..
> >
> > BUT In this Context *mon-�ye would have been resulted again as *mane:re 'to warn' but Semantically is different from mane:re 'to stay' : so is normal to be retained/restored as an o-causative mone:re
> >
> > 1. *mon-�h1- > mane:re 'stay, remain'
> > 2. *mon-�ye- > *mane:re (again) 'to warn' > mone:re 'to warn'
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>
> Why <moni:le> "necklace"?
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>
> Andrew

moni:le 'necklace'
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a) could be linked with Sanskrit man.i- 'necklace' < *monh-i- and in this case it has a closed syllable *mon-hi-
However Lubotsky considers Skt. man.i- of non-IE origin.
Anyway, a closed syllable mon- is not impossible here.

mola 'mill' (> Romanian moara)
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is from *molh-eh2 (PIE *melh-) so again a closed syllable *mol-heh2 here

Marius