Re: New way of getting Goth-

>
> > The s-kut/s-gud does need to be looked atif cott is "shelter",
> > maybe the Goths are "protectors" , i.e. originally a martial
> > clan;
>
> > but skut- was also linked to "pirate, darkness" in Scot and
> > Scythia
>
> Not in my book; I see them as the oppressed original population of
> most Scandinavia who left for greener pastures south of the Baltic,
> but under leaders who were part of the Odinist invaders (which is
> why we know Gothic as a Germanic language). That explains the mixed
> cremation/inhumation, they are a characteristic of the respective
> groups, as also claimed by Snorri. BTW, if the Goths had a leading
> layer who kept to themselves, that would explain the later limpieza
> de sangre etc traditions and why their language left so little mark
> in the Romance countries they conquered.




> But if they were an oppressed group, they would need "protectors"
> more than "semen pourers"

As you may recall, the proposal that started this thread was that the Goth name was derived from sub-Uralic, sub-IE ar-/ur- substrate *kot- "hut". But, speaking of pouring or casting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotini
and
http://runeberg.org/display.pl?mode=facsimile&work=svetym&page=0340
'1. hytta = fsv.: smälthytta,
mining word, from MHG hütte,
also: hydda, tent;
in older modern Sw. further as sailor word,
in Serenius 1741 translated as ’roundhouse’,
from LG hütte (cf hytt),
which, like Da. hytte, OS huttía, Eng. hut and Fra. hutte,
comes from the OHG MHG word (= German hütte),
from German *huðjon-,
to the root in OE hýdan, Eng. hide etc;
IE root kudh or kut; see under hus.'

cf. German Hütte "smelting facility", Hüttenbau "iron smelting",
Pol. huta etc.

Only problem is Tacitus says the Cotini are Celts, which, if I applied the *kot- = "hut" equation consistently, would mean the original inhabitants of Scandinavia were Celts too, which is a bit drastic.


Torsten