Res: Res: [tied] Re: Hermes again

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 63834
Date: 2009-04-16

Mycenean points to E-ma-a, *Herma:has, Boreas, to *Bora:has, with variant Borrhas, *Borsa:s, Poseidon (Po-se-da-o) to *PoTseidahon. Supposing all these names came from the same language, we would have *Herma:s (<*Yerma:s), *PoTseida:s, *Bora:s/Borsa:s

JS Lopes


De: alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 15 de Abril de 2009 21:11:01
Assunto: Res: [tied] Re: Hermes again

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@.. .> wrote:
>
> Hermeas has the same ending as Boreas.
>
> JS Lopes
>

1. I'm not sure that it was Hermeas It wasn't Herma:wo- or something like this?

2. Regarding Boreas

Beekes:

"Origin (see intro): IEX [477] *gW(o)rH- `mountain'
[...] -> 'wind from the mountains' "

===> I doubt a lot about this derivation

Regarding the suffix:

" The formation, however, is unclear; s. Pedersen Cinq. de&#769;cl. lat. 66, Schwyzer 461. (On wind names in -&#8055;&#945; &#962; Chantr. Form. 95.). Is it an IE formation?- "

Boreas seems to be a 'Balkanic' loan in Greek from a Languages where bH > b ; o > a;

This sound for me like the Proto-Albanian. ...
------------ --------- --------- --------- -------

so maybe also n. > a and a: > o to be sourced from:

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------
*h2p-h3n.h2- r-e-w-os > ba:rewas > boreas > Grk. boreas

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where:

h2ep- 'water' [noun]

-h3onh2- Hoffman suffix meaning 'charged, burden, loaded' [noun]

-ro- -> '[adj.] describing something <burden by waters/(snows) >'

-w- -> 'possesing something <burden by waters/(snows) >' [noun]

-es/os -> [noun] 'the agent that generated a phenomenon
'possesing something <burden by waters/(snows) >'
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If so Hermeas is also a loaned from *Ser-m-e-w-os with the meaning proposed yesterday

Marius



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