Res: [tied] Re: Celtic Tanarus and Gmc Thunaraz

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 63670
Date: 2009-03-28

Any link with *th2uros "bull, aurochs" or to Semitic thwr- "bull"?

JS Lopes


De: alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Sábado, 28 de Março de 2009 7:41:58
Assunto: [tied] Re: Celtic Tanarus and Gmc Thunaraz

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@ > wrote:
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> > Piotr, the name of the Celtic God Tanarus is put in link with the Luwian Storm-God/Thunder- God Tarh_unt- / Hittite Tarh_un.
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> > The name of the Anatolian God is linked to Hittite tarh_ 'to conquer, to defeat, to overpower, to cross'
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> > As I know, in Hittite, the h1 is vanished and h3 is preserved (sometimes?) only in the initial position of the words.
> >
> > So the single choice remains h2 ...
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> > In this case the derivation should be traced to terh2- 'to cross-over, to overcome' (and not to terh1-)
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> Yes, it is another possibility, though not without its own problems. The Anatolian theonym is actually *tarhw-ant- < *tr.h2w-(e)nt- 'overpowering, conquering' (rather than 'crossing the sky'), cf. Ved. tú:rva(n)t- (of Indra, Agni and Mitra). These epithets cannot be directly compared with *toranV- or *taranV-.
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> Piotr

Piotr,

1. Hittite verb tarh- has also the meaning 'to cross'

2. The Anatolian words tarh- belongs to the root terh2-, that has in its main meaning 'to cross over' (see Latin tra:ns- 'across' that belongs here too...)

3. The Thunder is something 'crossing the sky'

So where are 'the problems'?

Marius



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