Re: American Dutch dialects

--- On Sun, 3/1/09, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> From: tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
> Subject: [tied] Re: American Dutch dialects
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 2:38 PM
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jarrette"
> <anjarrette@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com,
> "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > Incidentally Torsten I just spoke on the phone with my
> sister, who
> > has been to Cornwall and Devon in England where she
> heard the
> > people there speaking with r's much the same as in
> Canada or the
> > U.S., i.e. in syllable-final position. She
> couldn't be sure whether
> > they were retroflex because she does not have training
> in
> > phonetics, but when I described retroflex
> pronunciation she thought
> > that was probably what she heard.

To me, the SW English /r/ sounds more like a Canadian /r/ than an American /r/ --i.e. more prolonged and little farther back in the mouth

>
> That is wonderful news. Now you just have to prove that
> Baltimore was
> founded by king Alfred.

Actually, it was founded by Lord Calvert, whose big house was in Baltimore, Ireland.

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