From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 63411
Date: 2009-02-24
> To tell the truth, I actually have a few more questions concerningYes. Already in Common Slavic a sligh asymmetry developed as *3^ was
> the Russian postalveolar/medio-palatal spirants and affricate.
>
> 1. If Russian <c^> comes from palatalized *k(W) and Russian <z^>
> comes from palatalized *g(W) and *g(W)H, why do they differ in
> articulation in that <c^> is soft medio-palatal as you described it,
> while <z^> is apical postalveolar? They both arise from the
> palatalization of (labio)velars which only differed in voicing in
> Proto-Slav, did they not?
> 2. In many grammars of Slavic languages, <s^> is listed as theOr rather, the RUKI sound, *s^, was retained in palatalising
> palatalization of [x].
> Is this the main origin of <s^> (<sz>, etc.) in Slavic languages? IAnother major source is *sj (including PIE *k^j). In some, but not all,
> always noticed that in dictionaries at least, <s^> seems to be
> noticeably less frequent than <z^> or <c^>, except in words of
> foreign origin (thus especially less frequent in OCS). Is this
> because it really is primarily the result of palatalization of [x] of
> whatever origin? Or are there other major sources for the <s^> sound?
>
> And is there any reason why it aligns with <z^> rather than <c^>I don't think so. It was just attracted into the same natural class.
> apart from the fact that it is a fricative rather than an affricate
> (i.e. because of the IE or Proto-Slav consonants or consonant-vowel
> combinations it derives from)?
> 3. Apart from *s after RUKI, what _is_ the origin of Slavic [x]? ItThis is a RUKI environment (plus cluster simplification, probably *ks^ >
> sometimes seems to correspond to IE initial *ks- or *kWs-,
> sometimes to IE *sk- (at least before consonants), yet sometimes itStill debated and pretty far from being quite resolved, just as you say.
> seems IE *sk- is preserved before consonants. What could be the
> conditioning factors? I fully realize that these questions have been
> addressed by many scholars, and that the question is not resolved. I
> just seek your opinion or the opinions of the other members of the
> list, or maybe you could cite the journalistic articles or books
> which deal with this issue.