Re: s-stems in Slavic and Germanic

From: david_russell_watson
Message: 63237
Date: 2009-02-20

I wonder if you and Torsten shouldn't just go ahead and
send the YouTube sisters your pictures and resumes, and
ask for a date.

David



--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jarrette" <anjarrette@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > Nah, I was just over-reacting because I felt you were deflecting
the
> > point I was trying to make: that's a real knife, and that's real
> > aggression under the cover of Narrenfreiheit. The point was that
this
> > type of strange reactions is the last thing that disappears after
the
> > language, the culture and the last substrate loans have gone: you
see
> > that and you know something old ethnic is going on under the
surface.
> >
> >
> > Torsten
> >
>
> I have trouble understanding you, it seems: to me, it sounds like
you
> are saying that the Dutch language, culture, and substrate loans
have
> gone or are disappearing. Of course that is the opposite of the
> truth. I can only think then that you mean that their Scottish
> language, culture, and substrate loans have gone, and their humor
> represents "something old ethnic" but Scottish. But did they ever
> have Scottish culture or substrate loans living in the
Netherlands? I
> doubt that in the modern world their Scottish mother would care very
> much about preserving their Scottish language, culture, and
substrate
> loans, assuming that these would be Gaelic or Lowland Scots, since
> English nowadays is probably not in such danger. I say this because
> if she did, she probably would not have married a Dutch man and
moved
> to the Netherlands. And the odds are that she would have been a
> native (Scottish) English speaker anyway, rather than Gaelic or
> Lowland Scots.
>
> But maybe I still haven't understood you. I don't know. When I
saw
> these girls I didn't pick up on all the ethnic tragedy that could be
> beneath their antics, like you did. I just thought they were having
> fun like girls often like to do (you know, "Girls Just Wanna Have
> Fun"? OK bad joke), and that's all I was saying by my comments. So
> there was no intention of deflecting your point, I wasn't really yet
> aware of it. Any deflection was unintentional, it was partly due to
> my lack of comprehension of your theory, and because I thought you
had
> already made your point and I could still make a superficial
comment.
> Right now, thinking about your point, I also wonder whether the
girls
> would be aware of what they were doing, if their humor was a coping
> mechanism for the tragedy in their lives (which tragedy is hard to
see
> just from those Youtube clips), if this is your point. I would
think
> the girls would not be conscious of that, that their expressed
> intention would be to have some fun, make some jokes, make people
> laugh, and make people notice them - all not necessarily requiring a
> special ethnic situation as you have emphasized.
>
> Anyway, I hope you continue to believe that I was not out to ignore
> you or snub you or "knife" you or anything like that. I'm not that
> kind of person, I seek to understand, be happy, and make others
happy.
> That's all. I don't try to wound other people.
>
> Andrew
>