From: david_russell_watson
Message: 63237
Date: 2009-02-20
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > Nah, I was just over-reacting because I felt you were deflecting
> > point I was trying to make: that's a real knife, and that's realthis
> > aggression under the cover of Narrenfreiheit. The point was that
> > type of strange reactions is the last thing that disappears afterthe
> > language, the culture and the last substrate loans have gone: yousee
> > that and you know something old ethnic is going on under thesurface.
> >you
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> > Torsten
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> I have trouble understanding you, it seems: to me, it sounds like
> are saying that the Dutch language, culture, and substrate loanshave
> gone or are disappearing. Of course that is the opposite of theNetherlands? I
> truth. I can only think then that you mean that their Scottish
> language, culture, and substrate loans have gone, and their humor
> represents "something old ethnic" but Scottish. But did they ever
> have Scottish culture or substrate loans living in the
> doubt that in the modern world their Scottish mother would care verysubstrate
> much about preserving their Scottish language, culture, and
> loans, assuming that these would be Gaelic or Lowland Scots, sincemoved
> English nowadays is probably not in such danger. I say this because
> if she did, she probably would not have married a Dutch man and
> to the Netherlands. And the odds are that she would have been asaw
> native (Scottish) English speaker anyway, rather than Gaelic or
> Lowland Scots.
>
> But maybe I still haven't understood you. I don't know. When I
> these girls I didn't pick up on all the ethnic tragedy that could behad
> beneath their antics, like you did. I just thought they were having
> fun like girls often like to do (you know, "Girls Just Wanna Have
> Fun"? OK bad joke), and that's all I was saying by my comments. So
> there was no intention of deflecting your point, I wasn't really yet
> aware of it. Any deflection was unintentional, it was partly due to
> my lack of comprehension of your theory, and because I thought you
> already made your point and I could still make a superficialcomment.
> Right now, thinking about your point, I also wonder whether thegirls
> would be aware of what they were doing, if their humor was a copingsee
> mechanism for the tragedy in their lives (which tragedy is hard to
> just from those Youtube clips), if this is your point. I wouldthink
> the girls would not be conscious of that, that their expressedhappy.
> intention would be to have some fun, make some jokes, make people
> laugh, and make people notice them - all not necessarily requiring a
> special ethnic situation as you have emphasized.
>
> Anyway, I hope you continue to believe that I was not out to ignore
> you or snub you or "knife" you or anything like that. I'm not that
> kind of person, I seek to understand, be happy, and make others
> That's all. I don't try to wound other people.
>
> Andrew
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