From: Andrew Jarrette
Message: 63101
Date: 2009-02-18
>I'm amazed that you get all those British shows (all of which I've
>
> > > > Do you mean that Dutch people are not funny, at least not funny
> > > > in the way these girls are?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Humor is one way of dealing with conflict (actually it's just
> > > procrastinating from it)
> >
> > So when we are joking, we are not aware (or are aware?) that a
> > conflict or argument or fight of some kind lurks in our future?
>
> That's what I think. One day I got the idea that Monty Python's
> Ministry of Silly Walks (made in the 60's) was telling people the
> unpleasant truth that British power was on a downhill slide, all their
> ministries could do was inventing new ways of walking silly
> (translate: showing off, having an attitude, evading answers), not
> anything useful, which many people at that time still thought they
> could; some other day I got the idea that Faulty Towers was actually a
> tragedy: a man who spent his youth killing Germans by the hundreds
> with impunity now can't even kill a single one of them on his own
> property. And once I got those ideas I didn't find those episodes
> funny; I got the point, but I lost the joke. Actually I think John
> Cleese himself is the tragedy, he looks like the product of a long
> line of British military men, he would have made a great officer in
> the British Empire, but by the time he came around, it was gone.
> >
>
> > , so culture clashes creates a lot of humor.Yes, but not _all_ black Americans speak a separate variety of the
> > > Think Chris Rock or Dave Chapelle.
> > >
> >
> > In general not the kind of humor that I like, or find funny, quite
> > often (particularly Mr. Rock, who seems to have a one-track mind).
> > Just my opinion though. Millions of people love them.
>
> Actually I wasn't recommending or endorsing either of them, I
> mentioned them as an example of humor as a tool for lessening tension
> between groups. In USA black Americans and white Americans constitute
> separate ethnic groups by most anthropological definitions, they even
> speak separate languages.
> Canadians, there are only people who happen to be black, same as ObamaYes, there aren't black people with a separate phonology, sentence
> stands outside traditional groups in the USA
> persist in the USA, there will be people trying to deal with it byI think Chris Rock is something similar to this.
> humor. The Germans have something called 'Narrenfreiheit', the freedom
> of the court jester, meaning he is permitted to say things to the king
> everybody else would get in trouble for (and that turns them into yes
> men, which is why the king needs a court jester to tell him unpleasant
> truths in the first place).\
>I don't understand what you're referring to with "the cartoon
> This is what the cartoon episode really meant here. People were
> becoming divided over whether those immigrants could take a joke, so
> someone decided to take it to the test. Apparently they couldn't. So
> if humor was the safety valve, it's now been clogged.
>