Re: s-stems in Slavic and Germanic

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jarrette" <anjarrette@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jarrette" <anjarrette@>

wrote:

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> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZf07Stnh-E
> > > > 0:57 'worden', first syllable too short,
> > > > schwa of the last syllable too long
> > > > 1:14 'nagelklippah' should be 'nagelknipper', as someone points
> > > > out in the comments
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> > >
> > > Hey! In listening to this clip again, I noticed that in trying to
> > > say "shove that cat up your anus", the red-haired one first says
> > > [kAt] for "cat", as though it were Dutch, then immediately corrects
> > > it to [kat].
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> > That happens to me too, if I use a quote in (American) English;
> > American phonemes, like the 'a', occasionally creep into the Danish
> > part of the sentence. No proof.
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> But you're a Dane who occasionally lets American phonemes into Danish
> sentences after a quote in English. This girl let Dutch phonemes into
> English sentences while reading English. Not the same thing, and not
> something a native English speaker would do. Clearly she accidentally
> lapsed into her native Dutch pronunciation.
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OK I just now understand what you are saying: Joan lapsed into
foreign pronunciation just like you sometimes lapse into foreign
pronunciation.

It's possible that she is a native English speaker, although I don't
recognize her accent (part Northern England, part RP, part Scottish -
and BTW most Scotsmen I've heard don't actually trill their r's), but
if so why would Mirren say "Ik weet die zin niet" in Dutch to her
rather than English? Obviously Joan understands Dutch therefore, and
Mirren speaks in Dutch in a moment of weakness, where if she were a
native English speaker you'd expect her to speak English, especially
if her sister is a native English speaker and when her sister has been
speaking nothing but English during the clip. There is no reason for
Mirren to confide in Dutch except that her sister actually is a native
Dutch speaker. And so is Mirren, from her evident Dutch accent in
speaking English (the details of which I have mentioned in my replies
to Brian, etc.)

Andrew

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