Re: s-stems in Slavic and Germanic

From: the_black_sheep@...
Message: 62872
Date: 2009-02-06

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> You mean it's considered by some to be Kentish.

I don't mean anything other than what I wrote.

> > Do you have examples to the contrary?

> The contrary of what?

Of 'disappeared' or 'receded'.

> Perhaps I should be asking you if you have Old Dutch examples of non-s
> plurals in monosyllables? The corpus is very small.

Yes, unfortunately it is. Examples:
masc: dag, bergh, man
fem: craft
neut: wort

> > Sure, Middelnederlands has -s in loanwords and occasionally in
> > monosyllables;

> Do your homework next time.

Actually I deliberately didn't dwell on the subject of Mnl, as I know
next to nothing about it for the time being; but thank you for
interesting links.

> We were discussing native Dutch words. Don't change the subject.

I believe you were discussing a number of issues; what I wrote on
Modern Dutch is meant to supplement that, not change the subject.

> BTW:
> http://www.dutchlanguage.info/dutch/history.asp
> 'William Caxton (c.1422-1491) wrote in his Prologue to his Aeneids in
> 1490 that an old English text was more like to Dutche than English.'

Yes:
"And also my lorde abbot of Westmynster ded do shewe to me late
certayn euydences wryton in olde Englysshe for to reduce it into our
Englysshe now vsid. And certaynly it was wreton in suche wyse that it
was more lyke to Dutche than Englysshe."
Your point being?

Considering that much of his business was connected with or in the Low
Countries, as well as in view of the cross-channel traffic and
relations, it's not a surprising comment to make - neither for him nor
for his intended readers.

PRO, C 67/51 (Pardon Roll, 1484), m. 35: "Willelmus Caxton civis et
mercerus Londonie alias dictus Willelmus Caxton nuper civis et
mercerus Londonie alias dictus Wellelmus Caxton mercator Stapule
Calesie alias dictus Willelmus Caxton nuper Magister sive Gubernator
mercatorum Anglie residencium in partibus Brabancie Flandrie Holandi
et Zelandi seu et cetera. Teste Rege apud Westmonasterium xx die Maii."

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