Re: * Re: Push (3)

--- In cybalist@... s.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

The Magyar trek is historically well documented. We have
nothing comparable for the absurd "theory" of Germanic (and only
Germanic) moving from West Siberia to Europe. If the notion that
Siberian peoples contributed words to the Germanic lexicon is not a
figment of Fournet's uncontrollable imagination, it would further need
to be convincingly shown that these words did not originate from a
substrate population which moved in from the east before the IE
arrived to absorb it.I shan't be holding my breath on that one (:=)))

(DJM):I don't have a copy handy to check, but I seem to remember that
Gamkrelidze and Ivanov had the Germans (and other I-E?) picking up
'house" from a Yenisseian language during a wide sweep through the
northeast.
Maybe it just means Fournet's not the only uncontrollable
imagination.
Dan

****GK: I don't have G/I at hand either (in any case I don't accept the validity of their overall Urheimat notions). I thought the idea of Germanic (and only Germanic) picking up "Yenissean" and other "Siberian (Uralic) words was peculiar to Fournet. I'd be interested to know whether other linguists on this list agree with this possibility. I'm not really in a position to judge. But if this is indeed fact and not imaginative fantasy, then I would like to know what reasons preclude  such words from being understood as contributions to emerging Germanic by groups already in situ when the pre-Germanic IE's occupied the early Germanic European areas.****