From: Rick McCallister
Message: 62504
Date: 2009-01-15
> From: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>English speakers are born knowing we speak an ugly language, which may reinforce our weltanschauung that we are always right. But I can't help feeling for the Flemish, of whom it was once said "verily, they farteth through their mouths."
> Subject: Re: [tied] * Re: Push (3)
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 2:10 PM
> > =======
> > I believe *puH is a better reconstruction,
> > *puH-a > Erzia puv-a-ms
> > but
> > Moksha is upH-a > uf-a-ms.
> >
> > A.
> > =======
>
> Mordvin *-pu- > Erzya -up-, or something more general?
> That's not a very natural type of metathesis.
>
> ==========
>
> We're talking about Moksha not Erzia.
> There are a certain number of possible metatheses.
> *puH-a > *upHa > *ufa is one
> PIE *kwâs "cough" > II *kas > aks-örd- is
> another
> Psi "fire" and ops^-tad "to burn" is
> one more from UEW *pis'-
> The word kenks^ is first attested in 1692 as kensk.
> Metathesis is not a predictable phenomenon.
>
> A.
> ==========
>
> > Are you really a Dane or a word-processor gone wild ?
> > A.
>
> Strangely enough, when I'm about to win an argument
> with a Swede, they
> never fail to change subject to that of the gutturalness of
> Danish and
> Scanian, as if the very euphoniousness of their language
> ensured the
> truth of what they stated in it. You're not *that*
> stupid, are you?
> Torsten
>
> ========
> I remember Rollon is one of my ancestors at the 34th Cneow
> So I guess I will remain neutral about that issue.
> Nevertheless, the reverse argument that you must be right
> because your
> language sounds ugly is wrong as well.
>
> A.