Re: Greek kitharis

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "david_russell_watson" <liberty@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@> wrote:
> >
> > I'd suggest PIE *kantlom 'musical instrument [stringed]' >
> > *ky~tHry~ > *kytHary in an Indo-Iranian language with features
> > like an > y (in some Nuristani) tr > tHr (Khowar, etc.), and
> > V-insertion (id., many others); from there borrowed widely.
>
> No. Beside the tanbur-e se ta:r, or "three-stringed pandore",
> we have also the dota:r, c^a:rta:r, panc^ta:r, and s^as^ta:r,
> with originally two, four, five, and six strings respectively.
>
> There's no connection between 'sitar' and 'kithara'.
>
> David

Also, I never said k > s (or anything similar) before new y. The
message in this thread that apparently sparked the recent question is
below; complain to him if you disagree.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:

> Mark, how do you establish the direction of borrowing in the case
of kitharis? It's a widespread "word of culture" for stringed
instruments, found from Greece to India. Our guitar is one of its
guises, and zither and sitar are further avatars of the same. Any
suggestions about the origin of the name?
>
> Piotr
>