Re: Cern

--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

> From: Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
> Subject: Re: [tied] Cern
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:00 AM
> On 2008-12-16 02:17, stlatos wrote:
>
> > If you believe that,
>
> I don't _believe_ anything here. I'm experimenting.
> The horn/cornu word
> and the *k^erh2- set are notoriously difficult to relate,
> so I'm willing
> to consider the possibility that they are two different
> words (with some
> secondary convergence) or at best two different extensions
> of a pre-PIE
> root (perhaps 'horn' as material, vs. 'a head
> (of horns/antlers)'?). I
> find *k^ren- easier to work with than *k^ern-, though of
> course I can be
> completely wrong. We all are, most of the time.
>
> > how would you explain Breton cern 'top (of
> > head/hill)'? There's also Cernunnos
> '*horned god' which should be old
> > enough for meaningful comparison.
>
> The Celtic situation is complex. *k^erh2wo- became *karawo-
> and one
> possible development of *k^r.no- was *karno-, with a
> neo-weak grade.
> Then we have similar words for 'rock, outcrop' and
> 'hoof', which could
> have undergone formal convergence with the 'horn'
> family by popular
> etymology. A Saussurean o-grade *korno- <
> *k^or[h2-w]-no- may be lurking
> there as well. I don't know how to analyse all of these
> words yet.
>
> Piotr

So, do you see a link between "horn" and "hard" words?