From: tgpedersen
Message: 62100
Date: 2008-12-16
>Much worse.
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Arnaud Fournet" <fournet.arnaud@>
> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@>
> > >
> > > On 2008-12-15 21:32, Joao S. Lopes wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> krios "ram"
> > >> hrinthar- "cow"
> > >> s^r.nga "horn"
> > >> xerut- "deer, stag"
> > >> kerambos, terambos "stagbeetle"
> > >>
> > >> Are they independent developments from same root k^erh- "head,
> > >> horn", or may represent diverse PIE names from horned beasts?
> > >
> > > Some of them can't be derived from *k^erh2-. It seems that
> > > *k^erh2(-ser/n-) means basically 'head', while most 'horn(ed)'
> > > words are derived from *k^erh2w- (cervus, *xerut-, Slavic
> > > *korva 'cow', etc.), *k^ren- (Slavic *sIrna 'roe-deer',
> > > s'r.Nga-, perhaps Rind) and possibly *k^rei- (*xraina-, krios).
> > > As an intriguing complication, stagbeetles and hornets seem to
> > > have names derived from 'head' rather than 'horn' (*k^erh2-...,
> > > *k^r.h2-sr-e:n). We seem to be dealing with an ancient set of
> > > related roots with various pre-PIE "extensions", no longer
> > > analysable in the protolanguage. *k^ren- and *k^rei- are
> > > vocalised differently from *k^erh2-, since PIE did not allow
> > > two sonorants at the end of a root.
> > >
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > ============
> >
> > Just for the fun,
> > you can add that Chinese for "horn" jiao3 is from *krok
> > if we follow the reconstruction of Baxter.
> > One more IE LW ?
> >
> > A.
> >
> Much worse than that.
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/kr.html
> Half circle = horns.
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/krn.html