Re: Res: [tied] Reindeer domestication : two origins

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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Res: [tied] Reindeer domestication : two origins


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> On 2008-12-15 21:32, Joao S. Lopes wrote:
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>>
>> krios "ram"
>> hrinthar- "cow"
>> s^r.nga "horn"
>> xerut- "deer, stag"
>> kerambos, terambos "stagbeetle"
>>
>> Are they independent developments from same root k^erh- "head, horn", or
>> may represent diverse PIE names from horned beasts?
>
> Some of them can't be derived from *k^erh2-. It seems that
> *k^erh2(-ser/n-) means basically 'head', while most 'horn(ed)' words are
> derived from *k^erh2w- (cervus, *xerut-, Slavic *korva 'cow', etc.),
> *k^ren- (Slavic *sIrna 'roe-deer', s'r.Nga-, perhaps Rind) and possibly
> *k^rei- (*xraina-, krios). As an intriguing complication, stagbeetles
> and hornets seem to have names derived from 'head' rather than 'horn'
> (*k^erh2-..., *k^r.h2-sr-e:n). We seem to be dealing with an ancient set
> of related roots with various pre-PIE "extensions", no longer analysable
> in the protolanguage. *k^ren- and *k^rei- are vocalised differently from
> *k^erh2-, since PIE did not allow two sonorants at the end of a root.
>
> Piotr
>
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Just for the fun,
you can add that Chinese for "horn" jiao3 is from *krok
if we follow the reconstruction of Baxter.
One more IE LW ?

A.