Res: [tied] Reindeer domestication : two origins

krios "ram"
hrinthar- "cow"
s^r.nga "horn"
xerut- "deer, stag"
kerambos, terambos "stagbeetle"

Are they independent developments from same root k^erh- "head, horn", or may represent diverse PIE names from horned beasts? There is a lot of horned ruminants in the IE area: wild goat and sheep, ibex, saiga, deer, roe-deer, elks, reindeers (maybe), aurochs, bisons, and we may add himalayan and tibetan ruminants like markhor, bharal, takin, yak, chiru.

JS Lopes

De: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 15 de Dezembro de 2008 16:34:59
Assunto: Re: [tied] Reindeer domestication : two origins

----- Original Message -----
From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@... edu.pl>
To: <cybalist@... s.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Reindeer domestication : two origins

>
> On 2008-12-15 18:03, Arnaud Fournet wrote:
>
>> It's theoretically possible if you admit that H2 here is from *(d)z
>> I suppose you don't accept that
>> - *(d)z > H2 in western PIE
>> - *(d)z > y in eastern PIE
>> So it's not derivable within standard PIE framework.
>
> Of course I don't accept it. We have already discussed your evidence
> and, in my opinion, your hypothesis is wrong. But aside from that, the
> problem with *k^roino- is not just the glide, but more general
> structural problems which have not been elucidated by anyone so far.
>
> Piotr
>
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Your answer was fairly predictable,
so I'm not surprised.
Best.
A.

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