Re: Vojing and voding

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@> wrote:
> >
> > On 2008-12-02 00:34, tgpedersen wrote:
> >
> > > Any relation of the suffix of Gmc kindin-, druhtin-, þiudan-?
> >
> > I don't think so. The Slavic suffix has a long vowel. A
> > connection with *(ed)inU 'one' can be suspected (note that
> > originally it occurred only in the singular). Besides, *-inU is
> > semantically empty in the sense that e.g. Pol. Grek and Greczyn
> > both mean 'a Greek', whereas the Germanic suffix in question
> > forms words with derived meanings.
> >
>
> from Grimm's Wörterbuch
>

...

> ... ; zu beachten sind die deutungen bei Höfler kult. geheimbünde d.
> germanen 1 (1934), besonders im abschnitt 'die sagen vom wilden heer
> als spiegelungen ekstatischer geheimkulte' s. 1 ff.:
> daz hoyste numen dyuiuon (divinum)
> daz mize mich noch hint bewarn
> vor allen vneholden:
> Truttan vnde Wutan,
> Wutanes her vnde alle sine man

Note that the text places druhtan- and wo:ðan- are treated as parallel
concepts, as if they were both titles.

> Interesting also that the Wutes-heer is known only from southern
> Germany, old Helvetian territory.

Where Ariovistus (most likely) was waging war.


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