Res: Res: [tied] The -SG- in Greek (PELASGOS)

Pallas (-nt-) was the name of a Titan and a goatskin Giant. It doesn't seem that both were "young boys". In some traditions, Pallas was the father of Eos, Selene and Athena, and tried to violate his daughter (cf. Indian myth of Samdhya or Rohini violated by her father Prajapati; Orion and Artemis). Pallas was also the father of 50 Pallantides, defeated by Theseus.

I prefer substratal origin for this word, that would come from the same language that generated Atlas, Bias, Idas, Gyas, Gigas, Byzas, Tho:as, Thaumas, Mimas. This substratum can be IE, but it'd not Proto-Greek (guessing: Gigant- < *dHg^Hm-g^nh2tos?; Idant- < *h1edont-?).

JS Lopes

De: Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 13 de Novembro de 2008 20:26:46
Assunto: Re: Res: [tied] The -SG- in Greek (PELASGOS)

On 2008-11-13 23:12, Joao S. Lopes wrote:

> We have the goddess Pallas (gen. Pallados), and the giant and titan
> Pallas (gen. Pallantos). Maybe these names were related to Pelasgos (and
> similar ones: Pelops, Peleus, Pelias; but it can be just coincidental) .
> Pallas seems a Pre-Greek name analogous to Hellas (gen. Hellados). I'm
> not saying that both are related, but that they can belong to the same
> Pre-Greek substratal language.

The Gk. suffix -ád- seems to have originated as a secondarily accented
allomorph of *-n.t- (Olsen 1989), so <pallás>/<pallá dos> can be treated
as closely related to <pálla:s>/<pállantos> ('young man' in its
appellative function), and further to <pallakís, pallaké:> 'concubine'
and <pállaks> 'boy/girl'. It would seem that the early meaning of
<pallád-> was just 'girl', and the 'brandisher' interpretation is
folk-etymological.

Piotr

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