From: Rick McCallister
Message: 61515
Date: 2008-11-10
> From: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>There are some things Uralic has in common with Basque such as the "negative" mood, etc. but I don't know if this is just typological or something of lexical origin --but see English don't/doesn't as a negative marker
> Subject: Re: [tied] oldest places- and watername in Scandinavia
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 4:27 AM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister"
> <gabaroo6958@...>
> >> > But when did the Saami arrive in the north
> >> Scandinavia?
> >> > I suppose that they arrive in the beginning
> of the
> >> era,
> >> > from Finnland and originally from the Asia.
> The
> >> arrival is
> >> > late, so they cannot make any linguistic
> influence.
> >> >
> >> =======
> >>
> >> This is a very late datation.
> >> In any case, it seems they arrived _before_
> Germanic people
> >> did.
> >>
> >> A.
> >
> > Actually we don't know where they arrived from.
> Their present language
> > arrived c. 2,000 BCE?? or so. But we don't know
> where their substrate, and
> > original, language was or where it was from.
> >
> ===================
>
> I would agree with that kind of datation (around -2000)
> As regards the substrate(s) Of Saami,
> as I has said before,
> I believe a very significant number of words of Substrate1
> are indo-european
> with Satem+Ruki features.
> Another Substrate2 may have some unclear connections with
> Basque.
> I wrote and submitted an article about that.
> We'll see if it goes thru the hurdles.
>
> I have pointed at ba'rsha "mountain"
> quite obviously from *bhergh.
>
> A.