From: tgpedersen
Message: 61495
Date: 2008-11-09
>It just occurred to me that 'take' is a class VI verb, so I will now
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@> wrote:
> >
> > At 6:22:20 PM on Saturday, November 8, 2008, tgpedersen
> > wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > It is also known that no Germanic word could have begun a
> > > p-, or be of the form TVT where T is any unvoiced stop (p,
> > > t, k, kW) and V is a vowel.
> >
> > Ringe offers two possible counterexamples to that last
> > assertion. One is PGmc. *kWikWaz 'alive' (ON <kvikr>, OE
> > <cwic>) < *kWikwós < PIE *gWih3wós by hardening of *h3 to *k
> > by Cowgill's law (*h23 > *k/R_w). The other is PGmc. *te:k-
> > ~ *tak- (Goth. <tekan> 'to touch', ON <taka> 'to take'),
> > which nicely matches Toch. B <täk-> 'touch, feel with the
> > hand; fetch, procure'). In _From Proto-Indo-European to
> > Proto-Germanic_ he derives these from post-PIE *deh1g- ~
> > *dh1g- 'touch'; from Adams' _Dictionary of Tocharian B_ I
> > gather that Ringe has previously attributed the Gmc.-Toch.
> > match to borrowing in a direction that can't be determined.
>
> That was two forms his proposal nailed. I wonder what he'll do with
> the rest of this mess:
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/55736
> starting at
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/55719