From: Rick McCallister
Message: 61384
Date: 2008-11-04
> From: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>English Creoles have moved across borders into Cameroons, Equatorial Guinea (Bioko), Caribbean Central America, Dutch Antilles, Suriname, Colombian islands, and I think some of the minor French islands of the Caribbeans such as St. Barts. I've been told Krio runs along the coast from Sierra Leone to the Congo border, albeit in some places as a lingua franca, in others as a market language, and, my Ghanaian colleagues tell me, with the exception of Ghana, where Akan is the lingua franca
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Scandinavia and the Germanic tribes such as Goths, Vandals, Angli and Saxones.
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 5:46 PM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister"
> <gabaroo6958@...>
> >
> > Depends on the level. Both have proven themselves at
> the highest level yet
> > English has managed to function as a lingua franca at
> the lowest levels.
> > True, there are French creole languages but they are
> never regarded as
> > French, while English creoles are generally seen as
> English dialect. It is
> > telling that there are English creoles in places never
> ruled by
> > English-speaking powers.
> >
> =============
>
> That's an interesting point.
> In French, the word "dialect" tends to be limited
> to the historical dialects
> of old French.
> There's a pervading fiction that modern (France) French
> has no dialect,
> something that is obviously contradicted by reality,
> and the fact I have much trouble understanding somebody
> from Narbonne,
> not to speak about Quebec French and Creoles.
>
> Where is there English creoles in places never ruled by
> English-speaking
> powers ?
> Chicago Black Ghetto !?
>
> A.