From: Rick McCallister
Message: 61375
Date: 2008-11-04
> From: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...>In the US, ethnic politics is very much alive, it's just not based on language
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Scandinavia and the Germanic tribes such as Goths, Vandals, Angli and Saxones.
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 2:26 PM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister"
> <gabaroo6958@...>
> >
> > Regarding English and its lack of chicness. Because
> it's a multi-national
> > language that doesn't belong to a single empire
> and doesn't have a single
> > standard, it's seen as a tool rather than a mark
> of identification. Rather
> > like Vulgar Latin, it tolerates differences that would
> have been seen as
> > separate languages in most language communities. My
> ancestors all arrived
> > in America speaking other languages and certainly did
> not see themselves
> > as bound into a community by knowledge of English. For
> them, integration
> > into an American community occurred when former
> Gaelic, Welsh, French,
> > Dutch and German speakers began to intermarry in the
> mid-1700s, after
> > 50-150 years in America.
> >
> ==============
>
> That may be right from a sheer biological point of view,
>
> but I'm afraid you are dreaming of some
> post-international, post-national
> status,
>
> From the point of view of Chinese people, of Arab-Muslim
> people, or from my
> own point of view, you are not "multi-national"
> nor "inter-national".
> You are American.
> (And I'm not. I can't vote for the President who
> has the most bombs and
> bastards under his thumb).
>
> And it does not matter there's a component somewhere in
> the process that
> used to be French,
> because this is now irrelevant.
> It's quite strange that you are coming back to that
> issue,
> You seem unable to assume the fact that you are American,
> What your ancestors used to be is gone in the sewer.
>English is not what binds the US together. It's the lingua franca that has become the tool of intergroup relationships.
> And your claim English does not belong to an Empire will
> sound definitely
> absurd to 80% of the planet.
> Do you also mean that Mac Donald and Monsanto are not partMac Donald, who is he? Is he the guy who had a farm and yelled E-I-E-I-O? Note that neither of these names is from English. Mac Dhomhnaill "son of the Ruler of the World" is Gaelic --now that's an imperialist name! Monsanto "holy mountain" is Latin or Italian.
> of the Empire ?
> I understood you are living in Central America,Actually, right now I'm back in the US, brainwashing people into speaking Spanish, the One True Language, as opposed those lesser, more debased forms of modern Latin.
> brainwashing people into
> speaking English, isn't that right !?
> You are part of the Big Device.
>
> Arnaud