Re: [pieml] Labiovelars versus Palatals + Labiovelar Approximant

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 61212
Date: 2008-11-02

On 2008-11-02 10:36, Arnaud Fournet wrote:

> Maybe you can label *k^uh2on- pre-PIE if you prefer keeping *k^won- for PIE
> proper.

But *h2 is not a universal phonetic symbol but a traditional label for
one of the PIE phonemes. It was not lost between vowels in PIE, so I
find no justification for the proposed reconstruction. _You_ can
reconstruct pre-PIE *kuXon-, *kuYon- or *kuZon- if you like, but
whatever these letters stand for should not be confused with PIE *h2.

> Does this word appear in Anatolian ?

Yes, but in Hittite it's hidden under the sumerogram UR.ZÍR. In
Hieroglyphic Luwian we have <zu-wa-na/i-> (Melchert's reading of the
initial syllable). Before you ask, *h2 was not lost in this position in
Luwian.

Piotr