From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 61092
Date: 2008-10-29
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From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
I shouldn't have called it 'unclassified bits of language from Central
Europe', most of it is Krahe's 'Old European' language of hydronymics.
Also, those river names are concentrated in Veneto/Carinthia in
Italy/Austria, Northern Spain, France, Netherlands / Western Germany
England and the south cast of the Baltic, not so much Central Europe.
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I'm not sure such a large extension from England to Illyria
and from Austria (and the Baltic coast) to northern Spain
can be described as "concentrated" ?
At least NWB, Celtic, Italic, Germanic, Baltic, Slavic, and "Illyrian" :
seven groups of IE languagues are known in this area
not to mention non IE languages.
Is Austria not Central Europe ?
And how can this "Venetic" be attested North, South, West, but not in the
center ?
Arnaud
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This is BTW the root I want to derive Venetic/Adria (and from that or
Baltic Venetic(?), loans in Germanic, NWBlock (and from there to Dutch
and German kant/Kante, 'Chattic', Celtic(?) cantus "wheel rim")) kant-
"edge, faction, (sub)tribe" from, which means it becomes of the form
*(a)kant- which means it fulfills the criterion to be part of
Schrijver's 'language of bird names'. BTW note also the gemination
(which makes it a part of Schrijver's 'language of geminates') and the
a/u 'ablaut' (which makes it part of Kuhn's 'ar-/ur-language').
Hope I haven't confused anyone.
Torsten
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Hope you don't get drowned into your four substrates :
Venetic
Schrijver's 'language of bird names'
Schrijver's 'language of geminates'
Kuhn's 'ar-/ur-language'
Not to mention NWB,
Let's see how you handle all theses hypotheses.
Arnaud